"Khadaq dan Khadar ALLAH"

Its been such a long time since I'm updating my blog. Last entry is on 2010. After last entry I'm soo busy finishing my thesis writing and Alhamdulllah I manage to finished it as targeted on December 2010. I submit my thesis to my supervisor.......then the test from ALLAH begins.....as a Muslim i believe that ALLAH the Al-Mighty have HIS own way to test me and test my Iman..HE know the best..and I accepted the 6th rule of "rukun iman, percayakan khadaq dan khadar". I believe its have the Hikmah for all this test. The test begun on February 2011 my daughter had an accident while she's came back from school..I spent about a month at the hospital and taking care of her. During that time I still updating my thesis which have been checked by my 2nd supervisor. I do my work in the hospital....taking care of my beloved daughter and finishing my updated thesis. I do my work while she was sleeping. Alhamdulillah she's recover now and manage to walk without her stick.

Another test begun when i'm waiting for my 1st supervisor feedback. My 2nd supervisor already consent my thesis for viva submitting notice but not my 1st supervisor. Her health and her busy schedule makes my thesis unattended...after a few plead she asked my to see her and we manage corrected my abstract and she gave her permission to submit the notice to faculty. After a few days my 2nd sv asked me to updated my thesis and after a few updated she gave her permission to sumbit the thesis. Unfortunately my 1st supervisor did not gave ant respond she's did't gave her permission for thesis submission. She said i've to wait for her. She have to check it first....and i have to wait and wait and wait..... While waiting time is flying away...my fellowship scheme is getting closer to the end. i begged my 1st sv to check my thesis and she angry with me and i don't have a guts to plead to her ever again. so i'm waiting....

Then the 3rd test begun...my son is attack by asthma and have to be hospitalized for a week..as as mother its my duty to take care of him in the hospital. Alhamdulillah he getting better and have to prescribe the healer everyday....at least he's o.k. After a few week my supervisor feedback my thesis and have to do some correction. Have already submitted after alter it.

The 4th test begun when I'm miscarriage. when i found that I'm pregnant I'm so happy and its the rezk from ALLAH but He knows best..I've been hospitalized but my health is not so good after that I've to confine and this Ramadan its not so smooth to me because of my health condition. after a few weeks my supervisor feedback the thesis and gonna to meet them this coming 23rd. Hope ALLAH give me good news and i can submit my thesis..InsyaAllah.

I know this test is from ALLAH and i accepted it as HIS servant. ALLAH knows the best.......May ALLAH give me rezk and getting my PhD. ASAP.......InsyaAllah.

SALAM EID MUBARAK

It's Eid Mubarak and RAYA mood spinning in my head...stop writing but....got a few days before submit book chapter....So busy preparing for hari raya and visiting from relatives and friends..but Thanks ALLAH because helping me throughout the days and manage to finished the book chapter editing til the end. I'm just submitting it to dr. graf before show it to my sv....(sorry dr.) all the consequences will under my burden.....TAWAKALLTUALLAH.....

so today i have to force my self start back my writing......1 more chapter...go go RAHMAH..InsyaALLAH.........

FASTING MONTS AND MY PROGRESS

Today 25 august 2010......still working on my 2 last chapter of my thesis writing. Fasting months.....a bit tired on doing rutine work and prepare for break fast......got tooth acne and got fever because of it..my husband outstation for last 2 weeks and not a good progress for me since busying like a beezzzz.....there and then...not much progress.....but InsyaAllah Today i will wake up back......as my husband already here and the rutine can slot in my phd works.

last week got a feed back for book chapter so much things to re construct....with my writing ALLAH give me strength.......i'm not sure i can submit my thesis end of this months as the book chapter have to be submitted to the comittee before 15th of september.....the most important thing my evaluation is not so strength so have to re do it again....so have to finished it first.....

ALLAH in this holy months please.......fullfill my prayer.....ALLAH help me throughout my phd and successfullness. Honestly i need your guide ALLAH and bless.........

WHERE AM I?

The answer is EVERYWHERE....try to catch up with everything unfortunately...i feel soo tired....i'm forcing my self to finished....but i can't the more i force my self , i'm getting unmotivated? I dont know Why? ALLAH please give me strength...One day i woke up after early sleep..and with ALLAH bless i manage to write 15 pages on that night...i'm calculating my self if i'm always motivated like that...i can finished my write up on AUGUST....but why lately i'm unmotivated...i tried to force my self...but.....?
Next Week i'm going to BALI for waset paper presentation..Hopefully everything starts well ends well...InsyaAllah...and hopefully after a few days resting in Bali I manage to motivated my self like a few days before....on that day i feel lots of idea but the clock is ticking and its 6.30 pm and everybody wake up....and i have to do my routine work as a housewife......and sometimes stole the time by doing something else...so...WHEN? WHY? WHERE? HOW?.........have to answer it myself....

my progress my feeling

It's been such a long time since i update this blog....lots of things to catch and do..being a housewife student made me busy all the time...taking care of everybody including my mother. today i feel very sad because i saw my mother getting more senile....she even cannot stand still and cannot do anything any more.... i know its my duty as her daughter to take a good care of her...but it make me feel sad. i don't know but every time i look at her i fell upset...thinking of her life...being abandoned by her only precious son..who not even bother about her....never come back every hari raya and ....speechless (many bad thing).

I pray to ALLAH to give me more strength......I will do my best to everything taking care of my mother , family and my thesis writing.

MTE OH MTE

4-6 Februari 2010, was the date for MTE which been held in PWTC, K.L. My supervisor asked me to replace her and being in the expo booth and met the judge...actually i'm not so sure about representing her...i've no experience and confidence to talk to the judge..but my sv keep on asking me and said that's a very good opportunity to me and experience the situation and wh question by the judge....well a week b4 i've been in bangi and do all the job for mte preparation. During the day.......the judge came and asked about the research that i've done....i've explaned to them but unfortunately...they not really understand what i'm talking about....i keep on explaining but the judge......in my heart that situation seem like malay idioms......macam itik cakap dengan ayam.....what the day.....
Off course i'm not sure about the content of my AIWBES..because its prepared by my sv...as a technical person i'm only incharge of representing it through web and using ai technique...if they asked me about the content of course i cannot tell them i don't know......so i just tell something that i'm not so sure about it.......then i know the judge is from education background....so i'm not blaming them of not knowing about fuzzy logic, simple rule base and knowledge based because its IT's jargon.......i called my sv and told her about everything because i'm so worried that she give the hope to me and i cannot get any awards for it...... i felt a bit dissapointed because what i'm trying to tell to the public especially in education.....this is the new technology in education....Malaysia is left behind in this technology because still using the questionnaire............................but the judge like dont trust the computer as an expert......if i tell them more about it in IT sure they're not familiar with it..because the're not from IT................well the next day...i'm not really in the mood to talk about my research but as my sv told i've to be there.....but Alhamdulillah....ALLAH knows what's in my heart.......i've given a chance to tell about my research to the public and i've been given a very good remarks by them..They told me that my research is a very novelty research that not being done in malaysia yet.....and i've been contributing a new technology to Education in Malaysia.....oh what a releave that the public really appreciate my 2 years time for this research......even one of the teacher ask me either they have to pay for my AIWBES...i didnt realize that my research have a market value...... :))

Yes...Dr...my dear SV.....you're right...i've gained the experience throughout this MTE.......and from this expo i've found lots of new things and very interesting and actually Malaysia have lots of researcher as qualify as others country.......

HEALTH AND EDUCATION

HEALTH.....STUDY.......both of this aspects is very important.....yes of course if your health is not good how you want to study.......am i right????

It's been such a long time before i've the opportunity to updated my blog.....lots of things to settle....during the fasting month...my health is not good....i've a sevre headache and when i'm going to ukm clinics...its show my blood preassure is increased.....ALLAH.....too much things to do and works...makes me stress......Dr. diagnosed me as pre-hypertension...he advice me to follow moderate lifestyle...means i've to take care of my health..(before this dn't have much time...but i've to make times)...WATCH MY DIET AND DO EXCERSICE......Today 24 October 2009. I've started my moderate lifestyle...watch my diet and do excersice...ALLAH please give a good health to me...I've to finished my phd.. at the end of next year DIS 2010...

New Techniques

Alhamdulillah, finally after a few days of thingking and reading, i finally finds my new techniques for user modelling which..a combination of stereotype um techniques, simple rule based Ai techniques and combination formula and probability Math...... this friday i will present to my supervisor and discuss about our research...hope this will help and accepted....thanks to my phd buddy sha who helps me in decision making.....3 hours we're arguing and talking about combination formula and why its suitable for my situation......

Today i'm going to talk to the principle of SMK jln reko.....hope everything is fine.........

phd...oh phd

Being a phd student is not easy....time management is very important, mind managent also gives a bit contribution and self management is the foremost........playing with this and the success is yours. InsyaAllah...

A few months i've been struggle with fuzzy and being stuck in the middle at last after a long discussion with dr. zalinda who's the fuzzy expert in UKM, we decided that the fuzzy techniques is not suitable for my research. I've to change to other techniques and it's takes make about a months to search for the suitable and best techniques to represent the learning style...my research is a bit tough.....with no data set to do data mining techniques as AI techniques which need a dataset.....and it's makes my mind spinning.......a bit conflict....i've talked to kak aya who's one of phd student she's said we are towards phd..because if its conflict its phd.....i'm just grinned and our conversation stops there....

Now i've to looked back and find the new techniques......it's seems i've to step backward and do the LR for the techniques..the morale is if you try to come out with a techniques..do test everything....find why you want to use it? where you can use it? then it's o.k...Please Allah gave me strength to overcome this problem......perform the mild usage first..... i've discussed with cta my phd buddy and we've talked about an hour to get my self esteems back and not feel down or give up...now i'm not giving up cta...thanks for the advice buddy.....hope that we will struggle untl we reach the success........Phd.

My supervisor urge me to write to the journal...she said i've to be multitasking.....do more then one things at one time....unfortunately i'm not like that...but i have to try and be multitasking while i'm searching for my new techniques, i've to write an article and do my mild test to my 1/2 finished system........i'm trying to be multitasking..... i'm trying...i'm trying dr.....

It's takes about 1 month to get consent from a ministry of education, state education depatment, district education depatment and school to do the research.....i've just wondering why it's take so much procedure and time for just only 4 hours research work....? They suppose to support the researcher like us......because our research is the contribution.....

All this thing comes at the same time....it's makes me feel down.....and a bit i feel like quiting but after re thingking about others , sacrafice, and off course my gratitute to KPT...i've to take this as a challange...

during my way to UKM this morning, i've saw three birds walks happily and i've just said to my self....what a wonderfull situation they're having....and i'm just wondered what are their realtionship? how am i going to find out is through the research.......the techniques is experiemental and the findings is their relationship....then i've just realize how important the research are....research is the contribution......research is the way you find something.......and this makes me fell that my research is important and i've to finished it..........

SUPERVISOR AND SUPERVISEE RESPONSIBILITY

A few days ago i did recieved an email from the v.dean, a lecturer and my beloved supervisor regarding the article : attached here:-

How to be a Terrible Graduate Student gh@cs.toronto.edu (Graeme Hirst)21 May 94 19:26:43 GMT------------------------------ - Come to graduate school only because it allows you to postpone yourentry to the real world.
- Assume that your advisor acts solely in their own best interests, andnever in yours.- Assume that your advisor (being more than 34 years old) doesn'tunderstand current research, and is not (and never was) as smart as youare.
- Never come to a meeting with your advisor prepared with an agenda ofthings you want to talk about, and never take notes during the discussion.(After all, little that your advisor says matters, and anyway, if it wereimportant you'd remember it.)
- Never take notes when you read a paper or book, or record any of yourideas in a research diary. (After all, if it were important, you'drememberit.) Corollary: It is not necessary to keep complete bibliographiccitationsfor anything that you read.
- Expect your advisor to give you a thesis topic and tell you exactly howto carry out the work, step by step. Corollary: If your thesis is notgoingwell, it's your advisor's fault, not yours.
- Regard any ideas that your advisor gives you for your thesis as yourown exclusive property, and present them to the world as if you alonethought of them.
- Frequently cancel meetings with your advisor, giving little notice (ornone at all), whenever there is the slightest excuse to do so.
- Assume that you can write up the final thesis in a month or two.
- Don't bother checking any of your results or proofreading anything youwrite; that's your advisor's job.
- Regard your graduate education as a 9-to-5 Monday-to-Friday job.
- Give the draft of your thesis to your advisor on a Friday, so that theycan read it over the weekend and give you feedback on Monday.

what's the motive of sending this article? to motivate student, to condemn student or to???????

for me yes i agree with this article but the supervisor also have the responsibility too towards the supervisee...... why

- supervisor should more alert to their supervisee, be fair and care about the supervisee
- try to spend a little time to entertained a student especially those who've already make an appointment
- be friendly and helpfull
- look interest on supervisee research and looking forward to finished it
- supportive
- reply an email sending by supervisee
- be a good listener
- be a good friends
- be a good educator (sure educate........)
- be a good facilitator

as you know we're still the student no matter how "old" we are and how "terrible" we are the responsibility to modeled us the be the "best and good student". That's why we are here......looking for knowledge and guide.............

examiner

Today i go to meet my examiner Dr. Shahrul during my proposal defence...because he's make a few question and problem that's i've to solve.....after a few discussion he said that my research is accepted and ask my to strictly focuss on my evaluation. So now i'm still developing my prototyping......Hope ALLAH will give me an idea to solve any problem arise duing my phd. research..and of course my health too......

HAPPY FATHER'S DAY

Happy father's day to all phd male student......... as a student father hope that all of you managed to handle all your life.........

to my beloved husband MOHD. NASRI ABU SAMAH happy father's day to you..you are the best father ever for our 6 kids........ we've celebrate it together with his birthday on 20th Jun as well as my youngest son Mohd. Firdaus who turns 3 this year. and thank you for being MR. MAMA throught out my studies years.......WE LOVE YOU VERY MUCH...

This year father's day also remind me of my late father ARWAH MOKHTAR IBRAHIM....... on 3rd June my family and i including my mother and sister visited his grave and we cited yassin and pray for him. May ALLAH bless him........ After 10 years.....we visited his grave not because we forget about him but..he's been buried in Damansara while we are in Kuantan...the distance..... makes us difficult to visit him oftenly.....but our pray will always be with him...

Talking about my late father..He's the biggest influent in my life....I really closed to him...when he died in 1990 (during my first year ni ITM recently known as Uitm) it's takes me about a week to accept the truth that he's died...a week i didn't consume food..my click Kak Tim, Kak Bib and others who's really concern about me pursue me to eat.....Angah, always advise me to accept the facts.....

His spirits always with me....because of him i'm continue my study until phd....I remembered during my childhood he always tell me that nothing else, a treasurer or legacy he can left me except give me a chance of good education.. so i'm trying to make him give me the priceless treasure that may be he's never thingking of.....the highest level of education Phd. When i've been accepted to ITM he's the happiest father and i thank god that i've proof it to my father when he's still alive..I know that he's proud of me And I'm sure that if he know i'm taking Phd. he's already fullfill his duty..Thanks ALLAH for giving his and my dreams comes true.......

As a policeman my father is very strict person..he always said that do the right thing "Berani kerana Benar" that's is the motto that i've follow until now...... that's why when i'm working... i'm very concentrate and strict about my work....because the work is 'Amanah' from ALLAH.

He always express his frusteration towards people who not work hard for what they're doing... My late father is a bit strict but sometimes a jovial person....may be because of his carriers. He's an orphan. his mother died a few hour after delivering him..May be because of it makes him a though person......I really respect him and he's inspire me a lot........................

AL -FATIHAH to my late father...thanks for raising me and give me a priceless treasure ever....

Coming Back....after.....

Happy mother's day!!! during that time i'm having a fever....as usuall if i'm sick i'm just keep quiet and do my own things..... so that day begins with no meaning eventhough a day before we brought things at groceries and my daughters intend to prepare a meals for mother's day........... after consume a medicine i feel a bit o.k and my daughter asked me to taste the meals they've prepared for me....my condition makes me tasteless...... i'm very thankful for my children who cooked for me during that day and that night they give me a bouquet of flower and musical cards... i don't know when they bought it and its nice the words is touching....... thanks i also loves you very much.... and mother's love is borderless.................................................................................

After recovered i came back to continue my research work..discussing with others and they said that my illness because of my worrieness towards my research..may be yess...after what i've facing during my defence....i felt really down...... but.....ALLAH gives me strenght to be strong through this tough ways...Yes... i admit that phd is Perjalanan Harungi Dugaan as my cliks CTA said about what is phd ? may be because phd student is normally married, have lots of responsibility and towards the ends of education.....any tiny miny itsy bitsy things will put in consideration and can be a big burden and problems to ....may be.....sometimes we struggle with our own mind thingking about our research and i realize that sometimes i felt like i just thingking about my self not other..like my children sometimes i've to let them be by them self, don't have a time to talk about their problems at school and sometimes i forget to ask them about their homework..because my head is spinning thinking about my phd research..... and for this i thanks my husband and children for understand me....i'ts so touching when my 5 yrs old daughter ask me are u going to work today? (for her i'm working not studying) and sometimes i have to take a break and entertain them... and looks at my daughter grinn when i'm not going to faculty makes me feel soo..touching...Sometimes i just wondered my self am i take a right decision? But it's my dreams and and comes only once.....so that's why i'm here.

Pray to ALLAH is the key words of phd successfullness.....hope that ALLAH will make the esiest way for me to achieve my success.........

DEFENCE PROPOSAL PRESENTATION

Last Thursday, on 30th April...the moments that i've been waiting is finally arrived. My Defence Proposal Presentation..... i defence it to my internal examiner Dr. Shahrul Azman...well it's goes well and a few question is asked regarding my research...the critical comment made by my examiner is the techniques that i'm going to used and to specify my reseach because he saw may research is too broad....and my evaluation.....how am i going to test my prototype? This two issue was arised by my examiner....well! the frusteration is from my own supervisor..She said that my proposal is loose and need tu strength it...i'm a bit shock because before i present it i've already show it to her and as usual she's no comment..how come she said it during my defence not before i defence it.....a few days after my defence i felt a bit frusterated with my supervisor...i don't know..what is the duty of a supervisor???? supervise or ...................

Even i still feel down but i will take it as a challenge....i want to meet her and set the things straight.... ALLAH please give me strength and do bless me towards my phd.......and not forget my hubby thanks for the morale supports............................

PHD PROGRESS PRESENTATION

Last Monday 13th April, i've presented my progress to my supervisor group.....as usual i've just present what's i'm doing and it's not surprisingly no comment...may be my supervisor just want to see my progrees after all i'm in her research group grantt...Well Alhamdulillah may be she's satisfy with my progress on schedule...but my problem is my computer is not compatible and i've to do it at home with no internet access.......

The fever,cough and flu is attacking all of my family.....from the first daughert until my last son....so everybody have to be in bed during this few days...and i'm busing taking care of them....my proposal presentation is coming soon..when i've to wait for the date meanwhile i've to stop my research and give my fully attention for my defence proposal day.....

a bit busy with my research and my personal life...

MORE COMPLICATED

As days goes by my research and my knowledge of this research become more specific...and lots of thingking is spinning in me head...can i do this can this be implemented......its look easy but complicated to implement......PLEASE ALLAH give me idea to solve the problem....tomorrow i will attending the tutorial organized by knotis group and discuss a bit about my research... I' ve send 2 email to Peter Brusilovsky and Staffi Graff who's the famous name in adaptive web based educational system. AWBES=my topic.....I've get the quick reply from dr brusilovsky but dr Graff didn't reply my 2nd email (may be she busy..i really hope that she will reply my email) don't know..At this point my truly respect to dr peter brusilovsky because he's willing to help the amatur reseacher like me.....

THANK YOU DR..BRUSILOVSKY....your reply give me strenght to finished my research and be part of your discussion group regarding the matter...

STUDENT IS STILL A STUDENT.......

Yesterday I'm joining the workshop organized by Dr. S and the person who incharge is Mrs. J....well as a student i'll always take the opportunity to enhance my knowledge and joining any courses organized by faculty.....
My supervisor told me and ili that we can join the workshop...because of the late information, we decided to join in the next session started at 10.30 a.m....during the session we can't follow the workshop because we don't have a mannual and i ask the instructor to give us the mannual but he just grin and lend us his mannual... in the end he ask me to ask the back person...i think his meaning mrs J....but during that time we didn't know who the person incharge....while we having our tea break on the evening.....mrs J just tall us that we are not registered and both of us shock and she told us that its over the limit of that package....she ask her who give us the permission to enter the workshop....feeling a little bit ambbarest i told her that my supervisor ask dr S and he the one who give us permission....well.....this is miscommunication.......and the next session i'm not joining the workshop because actually it's not related to my research......and i think it's not nice of me to join in without a permission.... well i think a little bit no manner on telling something to somebody.. I know she's a lecturer so am I...I'm also a lecturer i think if she can talk to us by approach us and tell the truth..its o.k ..I know i come here as a Phd. student..and for them a student is still a student even you're in the same boat(position) here. I hope when i came back tu my U and hold my phd lecturer status i will respect the student especially phd. student. I want to threat them like a friends not like a student.....but well organized off course..... today i'm going to install the vb.net software but the technician in level 3 didn't have it so i've to go to level 1 technician and they ask me to install it tomorrow....and my task is append a day....Please ALLAH give me strenght to finished my prototype on May....i've about 2 months more to finished my prototype...

Alhamdulillah, Thank You ALLAH

As I mention before my 2 sons is not well....my 1st son is feeling a bit o.k after taking some medicine but not my 2nd son who 2 &1/2 years old. He's got a bad direa...every thing we put in his mouth will get out back...he's vomit until he don't have any energy..so on that saturday i went to policlinic in Bangi but no one there....Emergency ?room but no body there...and after that i went tu UKM clinic but they only entertained the accident only...so i decided to take my son to nearest clinic. The doctor told me it's seem serious and put a medicine through my son anus and remind me if he still vomit just go to the hospital. After a few hour i tried to give him some milk (since he didn;t consume any thing within a day before)..but he vomit again..I'm so worried about his condition...ALLAH please help me...don't let something happen to my youngest son...I prayed to ALLAH....then we went to Kajang Hospital...in their emergency room...then i brought my son to see the doctor on call then he said because i've already see the doctor and i'm worried he will put a water into my son body...during that time a nurse try to chuckle my son but because of his condition he just lying there and just let what the nurse did to him...first the nurse put some medicine to his anus then the nurse inject his hand and get 2 inch of his blood (to blood test) and what he did just lying there..the nurse apprise him because he's a good boy...after that they put about 200ml water into that needle and my son is sleeping for 2 hour...In my heart i'm hoping that he's fine and will not be warded...after a few hour the nurse took the result of his blood test and show it to dr. Chan Jan Bon (May be his father is the big fan of James Bond) and he said that everything is ok. ALHAMDULILLAH....thank you ALLAH for answering my pray.......Now he is active again and can consume food back......

Friday the 20th....

Today, its not my day...early morning my two son vomitt ( both're not feeling very well), my nasi lemak is turn to nasi impit....,got head ache,...but I still have to do my work....have to finished my slide presentation for defence proposal which i don't know the date..and of course my research (finding learning style representation).....honesty I don't have a mood today since my two son is not well....but i've to fight get rid of my lazy mood and go on with my work.....Alhamdulillah I manage to finished my proposal power point presentation....even i'm worried about my sons but luckily my husband taking care of them..at least it's release me...a bit...
I have to finished my phd...at the due date....pity for my family..have to sacrafice for me....cannot get much attention from me especially during a day and sometimes at night when l've to catch up with the due date....ALLAH ALMIGHTY PLEASE GIVE ME STRENGTH AND FULLFILL MY GOAL................................................................................................................................................. Mum I really miss U.....Hope after my nephew wedding I can bring her to BBB and stay with me for a while...I need all the support that I can get.

Conference....ITC and Education 2&4 Februari 2009

I've come back from ipoh, for my ict conference.....as phd student it's like a brain storming and experience changing betweel all scholar in univeristy around Malaysia. I'm very axcited to be part of it. But....some people didn't like to share their knowledge and experience....and some of them just make a conference as a leisure....to join and going for a holiday (as normally the confence is being held in hotel)....that's not a good attitute as scholar we should take the opportunity to gain as much as we can and share the knowledge with others especially somebody in the same field in Malaysia. But it's not like that...this is my first conference that I've attended as a phd student and as a presenter.... i've already can see the picture hows schollar in Malaysia interact with each other...... during our lunch or break every body do their own business, talk to their clicks and i didn't see any of them try to talk to others and try get to know a new friends and change the experience.... I've try to break the ice by starting the conversation but....... some of them respon where as other just enjoying their meals.....that's human...... I think we should change the culture like this....as a educated person we must take this opportunity to get as many friends as we can even with the first graduate as sometime they know the latest technology and we can share with them.

Another experience is during the presentation by presenter.....it's seem everybody absorb everything.....no Q and A....(like our student)....are u sure no Q and A......???? If we ask or give our opinion about something it's doesn't shows that we try to be the best but we share what we know.....It's happen when a master student present her paper....as I'm always the one who ask?? (don't know either other participant didn't know about a topic or did'nt relize or didn't interested with the topic...) i've just hoping that somebody can fix her mistake...but unfortunately no body.... so i've to say something to correct her i'm afraid that others get a wrong information....after i corrected her then a few members in that session agree with me.... oh what a day??? how to change people......

But i'm really enjoy my conference as i can get lots of experience..........................................
i will upload my cd in my blog....